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Critique of Intelligent Design

Evolution vs. Creationism

The Art of ID Stuntmen

Faith vs Reason

Anthropic Principle

Autopsy of the Bible code

Science and Religion

Historical Notes


Serious Notions with a Smile


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No reply from Schroeder? Carnes, Paula Jan 01, 2006
I wear glasses, but I took your comment that Schroeder had not replied here as accurate. I did not do a search here for Schroeder. Just now when I did do a search I did not find a reply from him, so thank you for giving me the two links were you took the liberty to post his reply. Apparently he did not post here but wrote one of you or an acquaintance of one of you. Is this correct?

At the risk of being ridiculed again let me just say that I am not in favor of teaching creationism in public schools or public universitities. I am in favor of teaching the questions remaining about evolution. I realize that Schroeder is defending a Judeo-Christian religious perspective, possibly even a Muslim one. I did not mean to suggest that his religion should be taught in public science classes. I do think he raises valid questions, as do certain atheists, about the basic current concepts of how life occured.

I would love to see an honest respectful discussion between two scientists at the level of Schroeder's intelligence - not about religion, but science. I am sure you will point me to just such a discussion.

I do think philosophically that science will never prove atheism or deism. That is always going to be a choice of faith. We either have faith that the universe itself is eternal, or there is a Creator or force that was the first cause and eternal. No science class will ever resolve this.

Paula Carnes
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No reply from Schroeder? TalkReason , Jan 02, 2006
Dear Paula Carnes:

Your letter asks more than one question.

First, about Schroeder. We "ridiculed" you, as you put it, because you accused us of somehow curtailing freedom of speech and your
accusation sounded sarcastic. Since such an accusation was blatantly wrong, we decided to reply in kind. As to Schroeder's behavior, the detailed critique of his literary output was posted and published in print years ago,
but he never bothered to even acknlowledge the existence of the critique in question until recently when our reader Daniel, who belongs to the same religious oranization as Schroeder, asked him to respond to Perakh's critique. This
time, apparently, Schroeder could not refuse to reply, so he finally gave birth to a "reply" consisting of just a few lines (which we posted twice on our site). Perakh posted a detailed response to Schroeder's "reply" wherein he
suggested that Schroeder answer 10 questions regarding errors in Schroeder's books. True to form, Schroeder remains silent. There is no doubt whatsoever that he cannot come up with an intelligent answer to Perakh's questions. If
he can, all he has to do is to submit his reply and we'll post it immediately. We won't hold our breath, though, because Schoeder's egregious errors both in reading the Torah and in physics simply cannot be justified.

Your second thesis is of a general character. Please note that among our contributors are many religious people who, however, recognize the power of scientific arguments, in particular regarding evolution theory and, being honest scientists, defend evolution without abandoning their faith. Others of our contributors are agnostic or atheists, and we post their essays as well. Science has no tools to "prove" or to "disprove" the existence of God or gods. This problem is beyound science but properly belongs in theology and/or philosophy, so we post essays discussing such
problems in sections separate from ID or evolution.

Talk Reason
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